Dr. Jordan B. Peterson sits down in-person with retired Navy SEAL, author, speaker, and podcaster, Jocko Willink. They discuss Jocko’s new speaking tour, the catharsis and upward momentum gained from genuine connection, the morality of a soldier, what a real leader is, and how to become one yourself.
Jocko Willink is a retired U.S. Navy SEAL officer, co-author of the #1 New York Times bestseller Extreme Ownership: How U.S. Navy SEALs Lead and Win, Dichotomy of Leadership, host of the top-rated Jocko Podcast, and co-founder of Echelon Front, where he serves as Chief Executive Officer, leadership instructor, speaker, and strategic advisor. Jocko spent 20 years in the SEAL Teams, starting as an enlisted SEAL and rising through the ranks to become a SEAL officer. As commander of SEAL Team Three’s Task Unit Bruiser during the battle of Ramadi, he orchestrated SEAL operations that helped the “Ready First” Brigade of the U.S. Army’s First Armored Division bring stability to the violent, war-torn city. Task Unit Bruiser became the most highly decorated Special Operations Unit of the Iraq War.
This episode was recorded on December 29th, 2023
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(0:00) Tour Update 2024
(0:40) Coming up
(1:20) Intro
(3:40) Jocko on tour
(6:46) PTSD, regret, and dealing with dramatic mistakes
(12:34) Extreme Ownership
(15:11) The fundamental attribution error
(16:48) When to discipline your child
(18:04) Why matters more than what
(19:08) Meet and greets, lecturing, live Q&A’s
(30:28) The real thing, Vivek Ramaswamy, Donald Trump
(32:32) Relaxation is not the greatest reward for success
(35:25) Know your prime motivators, the joy in helping others succeed
(39:07) Survival strategy, mosquitos versus humans
(45:39) Sacrifice and investment creates heightened returns
(50:31) “Intent has a smell”
(53:14) Your guiding star will manifest itself in everything you do
(56:31) Everyone sees what you’re doing
(59:56) How to get people to listen to you
(1:06:04) The fourth law of combat leadership
(1:07:29) Group division arises from ego
(1:10:04) The antithesis to power and force
(1:14:29) Psychological reactance
(1:17:04) the narrative theme of nearly all female pornography
(1:18:07) All traits become toxic if taken to an extreme
(1:20:09) Virtue is not reducible to one aspect
(1:23:40) Leadership is like woodworking
(1:26:16) Knowing when to let others communicate for you
(1:30:36) Self-consciousness is a facet of negative emotion
(1:35:11) The authoritarian mindset within the military
(1:39:21) Skimming, culture, and openness
(1:43:53) Leaving Bill Maher speechless, ARC
(1:45:54) How the military prioritizes targets
(1:48:00) Understand the why, and lead by invitation
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